Well I have concluded my discussions with the Global Warming Expert who believes the best answer to the problem (and I'm not making this up) is to sterilize humanity with a virus and only give the cure to those he believes should reproduce, a few million at the most. Some of you who feel that global warming is a crisis may feel that it's not fair that I debate with a "nut-case" but in my opinion he is not one; however if you like feel free to e-mail me and we can start a new conversation. For clarity my position is this: The Earth is warming slightly and it's climate will continue to change as complex feedback mechanisms interact with each other. We as humans need to focus on reducing the amount of pollution we emit, not just in terms of CO2 but in terms of liquid chemical wastes (especially those that end up in our water) and change the way we power our civilization. More and cheaper power means more people will have access to it and the advantages it brings. Additionally a new power supply should reduce the amount of conflict over natural resources such as oil and coal. What I am skeptical of is not that we need to make a change or that the Earth's climate is changing, just the degree to which this constitutes an emergency that over 500 trillion dollars needs to be pumped into. In other words, I don't think "business as usual" can be sustained indefinitely, however I don't feel we're in such dire straits that we're doomed without drastic measures. In point of fact I feel that this "crisis" language will come back to bite the scientists and politicians who have been making these claims. The IPCC has reduced it's global sea-level rise from 3 feet to 17 inches, for example, in this latest report. Moving on, however, the point upon which the conversation between this expert (who had been to Antarctica himself and participated in the carbon ratio measurements) ended was that the satellite data shows less warming than predicted by models in all but one analysis of the data and even his own sources point out that this data is difficult to match with the models. Additionally man-made and volcano-caused events were difficult to identify. In short he could not prove the crisis. Can you? Send me a message and teach me something new.
On a side note, for my friends who know me, he also said I need a "mentor"! Post your thoughts on that tidbit as well! :-D
PS Speaking of global warming...
Friday, June 15, 2007
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Could agree more on the data flip flop. Strangely I think now even hard core scientist dont know which data set to follow. The warming trend is real but the outcome could be varyinf from moderate to worst. Back in my hometown there are dozens of lone limestone mountains and hills and the locals have their own story that these hills were islands long ago. So did some googling and found out a flooding event ~100000 years when the sea level was 5 to 8 metres higher. Hence there was ice melts so many times in the future.
Probably the key words in our todays GW understand is that we are accelerating the warming and it wont stop. And we indeed need to take account of lifestock emmisions as well. But then there werent many goats and cows to start with previously (many meaning the billions we have now). Hence that too is our fault. BUt humans are such ignorant bunch. You throw a few numbers and they go oohh ahhhh...but then they dont do much in the socio political scene in influencing bills to stop the vices of the present day society.
Killing the masses would be a good thing, but then again prevent the GW from happening is no go since we have to wait for the next event to even do something. Sad but true, whoever caused it, we are going through it.
Note: All said, Blenster has rock solid defense and evidence when it comes to GW or any science matter. Resistance is futile i would like to say, simply because this guy has the patience and perseverance to sieve through data and get the right sources. If anything matters, he is an authority himself rather than he needs a mentor.
p/s: pardon the typos in the previous comment: Hence there were ice melts so many times in the past and will be in the future.
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